I can appreciate your point of view Dave, which I'm sure it will 'chime' with others... but no.
Regards,
Roger.
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I’m glad you’ve asked that question Dave, not that I’ve in any way steered you towards it, it’s just that the question represents one of the most reasoned and therefore logical response to my earlier “no” answer.
But in answer your question, “if Hissy was still alive today, would he get a ride?” Yes.
However, I’ll put some ‘food for thought’ your way.
If it were possible to resurrect Steve Hislop for the sole purpose of attending the Manx Classic this year (2014), on the strict proviso that he had to ‘parade’ a bike at the event, then given Steve’s well recorded ‘estimation’ of the RC45 would it be the bike he’d choose? And if resurrection was only for the purposes of riding the RC45 in the event, would his response be unprintable?
If I were to take my RC45 to the said Manx event (or anywhere else - ever), I believe I’d be doing a greater service to the memory of Steve Hislop if I placarded it with ‘believed to be the bike Steve Hislop generally regarded as rubbish’; because that would be a proper presentation of fact.
Regards,
Roger.
But in answer your question, “if Hissy was still alive today, would he get a ride?” Yes.
However, I’ll put some ‘food for thought’ your way.
If it were possible to resurrect Steve Hislop for the sole purpose of attending the Manx Classic this year (2014), on the strict proviso that he had to ‘parade’ a bike at the event, then given Steve’s well recorded ‘estimation’ of the RC45 would it be the bike he’d choose? And if resurrection was only for the purposes of riding the RC45 in the event, would his response be unprintable?
If I were to take my RC45 to the said Manx event (or anywhere else - ever), I believe I’d be doing a greater service to the memory of Steve Hislop if I placarded it with ‘believed to be the bike Steve Hislop generally regarded as rubbish’; because that would be a proper presentation of fact.
Regards,
Roger.
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Hello Dave.
I presume you mean… why don’t I do what other people want me to do with what is mine… or do with mine what others think I should do.
The simple answer is… I don’t want to do what other people want me to do with what’s mine (simply because, were they in my position, it’s what they would do).
Look at it this way, let’s say I liked the AM PM colour scheme on some of Honda’s RVF 750 race bikes (actually I do); and let’s say I much preferred it to the scheme on your RC45; now let’s say I think you should change the colour scheme of your bike to the one which I prefer… and because that’s what I both prefer and think, I do expect you to make the change.
Would that be acceptable to you? Or would you tell me to ‘go forth and multiply’?
I trust you’ve ‘got it’ (and everyone else observing has too).
What I may want, or prefer, is irrelevant and immaterial relative to what belongs to you; and frankly my using pressure or cajolement, of any kind – including the ‘emotional’ variety (let alone any attempt at downright ‘dictatorship’) would be unworthy of me if I were a fair, honest, and decent “individual”.
I suppose I could extend the subject principle in consideration of wives and girlfriends, i.e., ‘I think I should be able to have a go on yours because that’s what I want, and think is best’.
I believe I must surely have effectively exemplified the point by now.
It’s quite straight forward really, and it’s called live and let live… the alternative is of course domination, e.g., Chimpanzee politics.
Regards,
Roger.
I presume you mean… why don’t I do what other people want me to do with what is mine… or do with mine what others think I should do.
The simple answer is… I don’t want to do what other people want me to do with what’s mine (simply because, were they in my position, it’s what they would do).
Look at it this way, let’s say I liked the AM PM colour scheme on some of Honda’s RVF 750 race bikes (actually I do); and let’s say I much preferred it to the scheme on your RC45; now let’s say I think you should change the colour scheme of your bike to the one which I prefer… and because that’s what I both prefer and think, I do expect you to make the change.
Would that be acceptable to you? Or would you tell me to ‘go forth and multiply’?
I trust you’ve ‘got it’ (and everyone else observing has too).
What I may want, or prefer, is irrelevant and immaterial relative to what belongs to you; and frankly my using pressure or cajolement, of any kind – including the ‘emotional’ variety (let alone any attempt at downright ‘dictatorship’) would be unworthy of me if I were a fair, honest, and decent “individual”.
I suppose I could extend the subject principle in consideration of wives and girlfriends, i.e., ‘I think I should be able to have a go on yours because that’s what I want, and think is best’.
I believe I must surely have effectively exemplified the point by now.
It’s quite straight forward really, and it’s called live and let live… the alternative is of course domination, e.g., Chimpanzee politics.
Regards,
Roger.
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Sorry Dave, I may have misinterpreted “So why don’t you Roger?”
Maybe you meant, why don’t I placard my bike, believed to be the Steve Hislop 1994 TT bike with:
This is believed to be the Steve Hislop 1994 TT bike, which he (Steve Hislop) generally regarded as rubbish.
Well I can placard the bike in accordance with the above, but it would be pointless as only I would see it, unless and until I decided (at my sole discretion as owner) to place the bike in the ‘public eye’.
So the best thing I can do for now is put the following statement on the record:
I believe (FOR VARIOUS DOCUMENTARY AND HISTORICALLY FACTUAL AND THEREFORE PROVABLE REASONS) that I have what was and is to the greatest possible extent, in degree far greater than any other, the ex-Castrol Honda RC45 as ridden in the 1994 TT by Steve Hislop; and I recognise and acknowledge that Steve Hislop generally regarded the bike as ‘rubbish’.
I think that should just about cover it (despite the statement, to all intents and purposes having already been made).
Regards,
Roger.
Maybe you meant, why don’t I placard my bike, believed to be the Steve Hislop 1994 TT bike with:
This is believed to be the Steve Hislop 1994 TT bike, which he (Steve Hislop) generally regarded as rubbish.
Well I can placard the bike in accordance with the above, but it would be pointless as only I would see it, unless and until I decided (at my sole discretion as owner) to place the bike in the ‘public eye’.
So the best thing I can do for now is put the following statement on the record:
I believe (FOR VARIOUS DOCUMENTARY AND HISTORICALLY FACTUAL AND THEREFORE PROVABLE REASONS) that I have what was and is to the greatest possible extent, in degree far greater than any other, the ex-Castrol Honda RC45 as ridden in the 1994 TT by Steve Hislop; and I recognise and acknowledge that Steve Hislop generally regarded the bike as ‘rubbish’.
I think that should just about cover it (despite the statement, to all intents and purposes having already been made).
Regards,
Roger.
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Whilst your wish is not my command, you may consider it forgotten Dave. 
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To all, particularly markrc45.
I have looked over a few of the topics and threads to which I’ve ‘contributed’(?), e.g., Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:43 pm, subject: who and why.
I see I have used the phrase “a couple of my bikes’”, so I had (in fact) already, and - most importantly - publicly (and by my own choice of phraseology) claimed to have several RC45’s… which in truth I do have, but that is unimportant. What is important, however, is that I have wrongfully (but without malice) accused markrc45 of breaking a confidence between us. Therefore:
1. I apologise to markrc45 entirely and unreservedly for any distress I may have caused him.
2. I withdraw any and all comments and/or suggestions I have made in posts on this subject that may have caused markrc45 any distress - and I renew my apology to him.
3. My apology to markrc45 (given entirely and unreservedly) is given as I see and acknowledge that I’m the one in the wrong. My apology is also given with pleasure as it pleases me to know that I have an opportunity at attempting to set a wrong right – hopefully with the injured party, markrc45, accepting my apology.
As for all other contributors and/or observers, clearly any distress I may have caused to you I also apologise for.
While I’m rendered an improved person as a result of the matter in question (and for that I give my thanks - to all), I also recognise and appreciate that I remain far from perfect and therefore entirely prone to making mistakes – for which I will always gracefully apologise when such mistakes are pointed out, or indeed whenever I might discover them for myself.
Regards to all.
Roger.
I have looked over a few of the topics and threads to which I’ve ‘contributed’(?), e.g., Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:43 pm, subject: who and why.
I see I have used the phrase “a couple of my bikes’”, so I had (in fact) already, and - most importantly - publicly (and by my own choice of phraseology) claimed to have several RC45’s… which in truth I do have, but that is unimportant. What is important, however, is that I have wrongfully (but without malice) accused markrc45 of breaking a confidence between us. Therefore:
1. I apologise to markrc45 entirely and unreservedly for any distress I may have caused him.
2. I withdraw any and all comments and/or suggestions I have made in posts on this subject that may have caused markrc45 any distress - and I renew my apology to him.
3. My apology to markrc45 (given entirely and unreservedly) is given as I see and acknowledge that I’m the one in the wrong. My apology is also given with pleasure as it pleases me to know that I have an opportunity at attempting to set a wrong right – hopefully with the injured party, markrc45, accepting my apology.
As for all other contributors and/or observers, clearly any distress I may have caused to you I also apologise for.
While I’m rendered an improved person as a result of the matter in question (and for that I give my thanks - to all), I also recognise and appreciate that I remain far from perfect and therefore entirely prone to making mistakes – for which I will always gracefully apologise when such mistakes are pointed out, or indeed whenever I might discover them for myself.
Regards to all.
Roger.
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Thank you, Mark, for your fair and kind acceptance of my apology. Given my error, for me to say that I now feel like a Totally Wantonly And Terrible fellow is certainly an understatement.
Regards,
Roger.
Regards,
Roger.