I have just booked in with www.ti64.co.uk to have my front axle copied in titanium along with the steering stem top nut. If anyone also wants either of these parts send me a pm or contact Pete directly. He is fully booked until February and I will be sending him my parts at the beginning of February.
If you look at his blog you will see that he has recently made some steering stem top nuts for a Honda SP2. I believe these are the same as the RC30 part.
I'm thinking of having some 'crash mushrooms' made out of Diamond encrusted Platignum - they should resist 'wear' quite well - in the event of an awful happenstance.
Anyone know who might make a set up for me?
Actually, no, forget the crash mushrooms… some magic mushrooms instead!
Price is crazy I know but check it out 06443-nl9-000
Hey roger hows about some pics of your bikes as still waiting to see some..... you have got them havent you ? Or have you already got a good supply of magic mushrooms and imagining that you do?.........
Well Mark, I’ve got what I’ve got… and what I’ve said I’ve got I’ve got... not through imagination but in reality.
Having said that, I could always make room for another RC45, indeed your very own no less, so here’s something for you to ‘chew on’.
You know how many RC45’s I’ve claimed to have (as stated in my former pm to you via this forum on Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:50 pm). So, how about this:
1: If it happens to be the case that I DO NOT HAVE at least the number of RC45’s I’ve claimed to have (via the said pm to you) I pay to you, without reservation, a sum (in UK Sterling) equal to the monetary value of your RC45, as assessed and agreed upon by two mutually agreed and voluntary independent refereeing members of this site (force-v4.com).
2: If it happens to be the case that I DO HAVE at least the number of RC45’s I’ve claimed to have (via the said pm to you) you pass to me, without reservation, irretrievable and irrevocable ownership of your RC45, as depicted on this site and without adulteration, via two mutually agreed and voluntary independent refereeing members of this site (force-v4.com).
Would you like me to proceed with the process of drawing up a Contract to Challenge?
As for pics, I think you may already have seen parts of some of my RC45’s via DW when he embarked upon his ‘fishing expedition’ on behalf of someone (un-named) that he claimed he was building an RC45 for.
Finally, I do not like your insinuation that I am a liar.
There is no offence meant or intended towards anyone named or alluded to in this or any of my posts. If any offence has been (inadvertently and unintentionally) caused then I apologise unreservedly.
Having necessarily and fairly put the above, my challenge to mark45, as generalised in my earlier post remains serious and is therefore open to acceptance, or rejection, by mark45.
It's ok Dave, I can't see Mark taking the risk with his '45 (which is just as well because he'd lose it).
As Mark has, in effect, intimated that I've claimed a falsehood it would be decent and honourable if he withdraw that slight (assuming he'd rather not 'walk the 30 paces').
It's ok Dave, I can't see Mark taking the risk with his '45 (which is just as well because he'd lose it).
As Mark has, in effect, intimated that I've claimed a falsehood it would be decent and honourable if he withdraw that slight (assuming he'd rather not 'walk the 30 paces').
It's ok Dave, I can't see Mark taking the risk with his '45 (which is just as well because he'd lose it).
As Mark has, in effect, intimated that I've claimed a falsehood it would be decent and honourable if he withdraw that slight (assuming he'd rather not 'walk the 30 paces').
Although what markrc45 has written seems to me to be a bit confused and is thus rendered somewhat cryptic (given the ‘quality’ of the writing) I’ve done my best to reasonably, and logically, respond.
From markrc45:
few things you need to know to start with. that is I tend to be straight talking don't beat about the bush with insinuations or the like so if I did think you were a lying full of crap dickhead belive you me you would of been told you are.....
My response:
You seem to be rather angry, but why would you write “if I did think you were a lying full of crap dickhead belive you me you would of been told you are.....”… Clearly such thoughts must be in the mind for them to be ‘written on the page’. You are of course entitled to harbour your thoughts and opinions – whatever the may be.
From markrc45:
while we are on the insinuating subject just explain why you think its ok for you to insinuate I was talking crap about the price I had to pay for my axle in your normal
My response:
I don’t doubt your word regarding the price you paid for the axle, nor do I think I’ve “insinuated” any such. From my purely personal point of view I doubt the relative value for money of said axle; but hey, it’s your money and from your purely personal point of view it must have been worth it's price… much as ‘diamond encrusted Platignum crash mushrooms’ might be worth their price to me ‘under certain circumstances’.
And I repeat, from markrc45:
few things you need to know to start with. that is I tend to be straight talking don't beat about the bush with insinuations or the like so if I did think you were a lying full of crap dickhead belive you me you would of been told you are..... way but its not ok for me to give it back...... if you don't like it when its dished up to you don't dish it out .... and certainly don't think you will be dishing it up to me and not getting any back....
My further response:
Ok, so do you want to take up my challenge or not then? And if you’re so straight talking why do you feel it necessary to delve for answers to the simplest questions by way of a pm? And… whilst you certainly seem to be “giving it back” (whatever that means – and for whatever reason), the question that still remains is… can YOU take it… well can you? Yes? Accept the challenge then!
From markrc45:
the fact of the matter is I never did doubt the fact you had x number of 45s I was merely putting the magic mushroom post back at you and the fact that your the first to ask for more pics of members 45 but haven't put any pics of your bikes on the forum.....
My response:
Ok again, and you’re quite right about me asking to see pics of other owners bikes… but when, and only when, those other owners have elected to post unsolicited pics and must therefore be happy with the process of item exposure… as (I presume) pleasure is thus enjoyed by the owners. Indeed the fundamental pleasure of ownership derived by some owners is not actually ownership in and of itself but the ability to parade what they own before others (for whatever psychological reason). Nothing at all wrong with that and I’m glad most people fall in to the category of ‘parading displayer’ because I derive pleasure from seeing what is being paraded and displayed (and observing human nature can be quite illuminating). However, other people (and I’m one such) derive pleasure purely from ownership without having any displaying or parading desire.
With regard to the number of ‘45’s I have, YOU sought that information in a private pm to me and I answered you directly and honestly out of fairness and decency and it is YOU who raised the question as to my honesty in public and it is YOU, therefore, who is in the wrong.
So I ask you again do you want to take up my challenge or not?
From markrc45:
so this challenge you want me to put my bike up for grads if you prove you have x number of bikes
My response:
Yes, so either put-up or shut-up… without any of the diversionary, ducking and diving, avoidance, flim-flam that has thus far followed from you.
From markrc45:
how about this you harp on about the hisslop bike your ment to have and got very defensive when an other similar bike came on the scene. so why don't you prove to us all that the bike you have is the hisslop bike that won the 94 tt. I belive that you cant and that the bike you have more than likely was the winning bike of hisslop s but from the time it was taken from the podium to the time you bought it various parts were changed meaning that the winning bike no longer existed.. because the bike never went in a glass box after the race it carried on being a race bike so would of been stripped and rebuilt with new and different part on numerous occasions making the winning bike none existent .... the only way for you to have the hisslop 94 winning bike would I belive would of been bought it from Honda and taken possession of it as soon as it left the podium......
My response:
Thanks for letting me know the sorts of discussions (idle shit-chat) that you and various other parties must have been having; given that I’ve had all of that put to me before by someone else who’s made certain ‘wishful Hislop claims’. I think I’ve written before that there are those who deeply desire to have something and who, by stealthy degrees, seek to convert such an ownership desire into legend and then to leave popular misconception to become set into lore (falsehood).
FOR THE RECORD: I believe (FOR VARIOUS DOCUMENTARY AND HISTORICALLY FACTUAL AND THEREFORE PROVABLE REASONS) I have what was and is to the greatest possible extent, in degree far greater than any other, the Hislop bike to which you’ve referred. But that, as they say, is my business.
From markrc45:
also if you were so cock sure of your facts how come I would have to hand over my bike but you only were prepared to hand over cash and not a bike as well...
as it happens I already have a mint low millage standard 45 and the black one on this forum made upp from the best hrc parts and one off parts I could find so the cash would of been the better option as I wouldn't want an other bitsa anyway....
My response:
You seem to have missed the point completely so I’ll ‘spell it out to you’, in simple steps:
1: You asked me a question in a pm, i.e., how may RC45’s I had.
2: I answered your question honestly in a responding pm, telling you how may RC45’s I had.
3: You intimated, in public, that I was a liar with regard to how many RC45’s I’d told you I had.
4: I challenged you, in public, to put your RC45 (the one depicted on this site) where your slanderous mouth is (provable).
5: I agreed to put my money, equal to the agreed value of your RC45, where my honest mouth is (provable).
YOU have, it seems, declined the challenge, without either decency or honour; preferring instead to obfuscate and avoid.
With regard to “I wouldn't want an other bitsa anyway….”…. I say, there you go again, ‘running your mouth off” without (by your own admission) knowing anything at all about me or what I have…. Be careful, you could foolishly lose your house and ‘the shirt off your back’!
So, markrc45, I’ll ask you once again, do you want to take up my RC45 related challenge… YES or NO.
There is no need for you to respond with any further confounding ‘garbage’ a simple one word YES or NO answer will suffice.
Regards.
Roger.
To all other observers, particularly site mediators:
This little matter has arisen as a result of markrc45 effectively and publicly insinuating that I was a liar with regard to a pm which he directly solicited from me. Given that any right to privacy between markrc45 and me has been negated by the pm related public slight from markrc45 I am prepared (and reserve the right) to make all relevant pm’s between him and me public. Furthermore I am prepared (and reserve the right) to make all pm’s relating to ‘the Hislop bike’ public given that discussions have clearly been taking place which have been taken (by other parties) beyond and outside of the privacy of those pm’s.
I’m glad you’ve asked that question Dave, not that I’ve in any way steered you towards it, it’s just that the question represents one of the most reasoned and therefore logical response to my earlier “no” answer.
But in answer your question, “if Hissy was still alive today, would he get a ride?” Yes.
However, I’ll put some ‘food for thought’ your way.
If it were possible to resurrect Steve Hislop for the sole purpose of attending the Manx Classic this year (2014), on the strict proviso that he had to ‘parade’ a bike at the event, then given Steve’s well recorded ‘estimation’ of the RC45 would it be the bike he’d choose? And if resurrection was only for the purposes of riding the RC45 in the event, would his response be unprintable?
If I were to take my RC45 to the said Manx event (or anywhere else - ever), I believe I’d be doing a greater service to the memory of Steve Hislop if I placarded it with ‘believed to be the bike Steve Hislop generally regarded as rubbish’; because that would be a proper presentation of fact.
I presume you mean… why don’t I do what other people want me to do with what is mine… or do with mine what others think I should do.
The simple answer is… I don’t want to do what other people want me to do with what’s mine (simply because, were they in my position, it’s what they would do).
Look at it this way, let’s say I liked the AM PM colour scheme on some of Honda’s RVF 750 race bikes (actually I do); and let’s say I much preferred it to the scheme on your RC45; now let’s say I think you should change the colour scheme of your bike to the one which I prefer… and because that’s what I both prefer and think, I do expect you to make the change.
Would that be acceptable to you? Or would you tell me to ‘go forth and multiply’?
I trust you’ve ‘got it’ (and everyone else observing has too).
What I may want, or prefer, is irrelevant and immaterial relative to what belongs to you; and frankly my using pressure or cajolement, of any kind – including the ‘emotional’ variety (let alone any attempt at downright ‘dictatorship’) would be unworthy of me if I were a fair, honest, and decent “individual”.
I suppose I could extend the subject principle in consideration of wives and girlfriends, i.e., ‘I think I should be able to have a go on yours because that’s what I want, and think is best’.
I believe I must surely have effectively exemplified the point by now.
It’s quite straight forward really, and it’s called live and let live… the alternative is of course domination, e.g., Chimpanzee politics.
Sorry Dave, I may have misinterpreted “So why don’t you Roger?”
Maybe you meant, why don’t I placard my bike, believed to be the Steve Hislop 1994 TT bike with:
This is believed to be the Steve Hislop 1994 TT bike, which he (Steve Hislop) generally regarded as rubbish.
Well I can placard the bike in accordance with the above, but it would be pointless as only I would see it, unless and until I decided (at my sole discretion as owner) to place the bike in the ‘public eye’.
So the best thing I can do for now is put the following statement on the record:
I believe (FOR VARIOUS DOCUMENTARY AND HISTORICALLY FACTUAL AND THEREFORE PROVABLE REASONS) that I have what was and is to the greatest possible extent, in degree far greater than any other, the ex-Castrol Honda RC45 as ridden in the 1994 TT by Steve Hislop; and I recognise and acknowledge that Steve Hislop generally regarded the bike as ‘rubbish’.
I think that should just about cover it (despite the statement, to all intents and purposes having already been made).