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Richyboyo



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:33 pm    Post subject: 11 digit vin  


Hi all,
I'm new to this forum but I'm hoping to buy a RC45 Which achieves a dream of mine.
I'm in need of your expertise and will be very grateful if anyone could help identify the origin of a bike I would like to buy. The vin is RC45 2000476 and it's a 1994 model I'm told.
My concern is I would only like to purchase a full power model and I'm unsure of how to tell the difference between a full power and not.

I'm told the bike started registered life in Ireland and was sent to uk and was first registered uk in 2007, the seller is unaware if clocks have been changed but feels the were no as he knew the previous owners.

I would be super grateful if anyone could help shed some light on this bikes origin
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:01 am    Post subject:  


Wow!!! VIN 476... that is the highest VIN I've recorded...

The seat of your pants should let you know if your RC45 is running on full
power... less maps run about 87HP whereas Euro side of the map could run
as high as 118HP depending how much you open the front door (filter) and
back door (exhaust)... all that's needed is the cutting and splicing of wires
leading into the ECU...


RC45 HRC Wire Mod


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:02 am    Post subject:  


Thanks very much for your response Larry.
As for "seat of your pants" I actually haven't bought it yet and will prob have to buy it blind , other than pictures etc!
It seems really tricky to find the origins of a 11 digit vin bike.
I will prob have to as the dealer to check what PGM FI unit is installed to see if it's the full power spec. Again I got this info from this superb forum.

In your experienced view does it matter if the bike is full power from factory or not with regard to desirability and future sale when I'm to old to ride!!

It's a shame that Honda didn't keep records of the 11 digit vin numbers and where they all went too, saying that I'm sure they have a list somewhere but it doesn't seem to be public material!!
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You're welcome...

We're on our own when it comes to sorting out the origins... Honda is silent
for some odd reason and Dealers aren't much help either...

Bone stock seems to drive desirability for the collectors... for us riders its
HRC or trick after market parts that either drop weight or boost RWHP...

I've dropped over 33lbs and enjoy 116 RWHP so every ride is a mind
altering experience at go-straight-to-jail-velocities...

My experience shows full power is not box specific... however full power
is specific on the 3 wire trick... my theory is that Honda installed 2 maps
in each PGM... the first map complies with each countries government
standards like noise or HP or whatever... and the second is the same full
power out put but only accessible by cutting and splicing 3 wires... It's
possible that some PGM's first map is full power because of less
government restrictions so the 3 wire trick would be mute...

My records show that 1994 RC45 with VIN 2000476 might be AUSTRIA... we
might learn more if you can post the part numbers on the SPARK and the
PGM-FI boxes... you'll need to remove the tail cowl to access the units...









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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:41 am    Post subject:  


Larry. What can I say but thanks for the info you have sent much appreciated

I have asked the seller to provide the details of the PGM FI unit and I will advise what it is.
I have seen from other posts the list of corresponding countries to part numbers so that will be a great help.

I wil now look to see if a bike from Austria (if it turns out to be Austrian) is a full power or let's say less factory restricted ( although it may need the 3 wire mod as you say)

The seller is certain that is unrestricted but as I have learnt here it's not simple unless it has the ED PGM FI.

Regarding values of RC 45 s it's been said that they have "topped out" so to speak, I must say for the past years they have always stayed in the same region of cost without major increase, would you say the same?
Thanks again.
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RC45 values have steadily climbed ever since John Kocinski won the 1997
WSB championship... what helps to continually boost interest and thus
prices are magazine articles like below...



Ride magazine "What we want"


2007 MCN OWO1vRC45vRC30




Performance Bike "Is this the best ever road bike?"


Performance Bike "RC45 Family Tree"


Performance Bike


Bike magazine "RC45 Race Cool"...


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:09 am    Post subject:  


Superb. Thankyou Larry.
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Richyboyo wrote:
Superb. Thankyou Larry.


You're welcome...
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